Post by pokemoneinstein on Dec 8, 2011 18:41:54 GMT -5
I'm trying to get this accepted to OCR when I finish, so all criticism is welcome, so long as it's constructive. The smallest nitpicks even are what I'm looking for, I want you all to advise the hell out of me. No suggestion is too big or too small.
VERSION 2: So I've made a second version with a much more interesting introduction, and some overall improvements. But I still feel like some places are a bit busy. I varied up the chord velocity a bit, though perhaps not enough. Just some overall improvements, but no major changes besides the intro. Minor changes include less bass panning, trombones for the chords, Low Shelf Filter and High Shelf Filter for the cellos/trombones and piano, respectively, and extra percussion.
VERSION 2.5: Some more small EQing things, in addition to an extra snare, and one version with variations in the piano's timing, and one version without it, so the difference can be compared. Still, all suggestions and opinions are much sought-after and much appreciated.
VERSION 3: First major update. About an extra minute of music added, lots of effects and things. No major production changes, just composition. After the scream, I plan on changing the chord progression as we get into the bridge, and I might add some speckles of other songs here and there. But I'd especially like some opinions on the sound clips—I'm trying to decide if I should cut back on them or not.
VERSION 3.5: Changed piano chords to arpeggios in the vibraphone interlude, changed around the sound effect section. I'd really like some opinions on the two changes made in this version in comparison to v3.
VERSION 4: Added smattering of other M&L songs here and there, added a guitar to compliment the tubular bells in the first section of the song, and added some more small production changes, mostly with volume and echo and things.
VERSION 4.5: Took off chorus on guitar and changes some effects to make it less muddy. Removed the pitch bend, as well. Took off all cutoff and resonance from lead, but I'm planning on adding a resonance automator soon. Lightened reverb on orchestral tracks, brightened piano, trombones, cellos, and all the interludes that include other songs. My main concern with this here is that there isn't quite enough reverb in the interludes to make them blend well with the rest of the song, and possibly the same issue, albeit to a lesser extent, with the trombone and cello chords. Though with the trombone chords, I'm hearing an occasional note that's much stronger than the others. I can't tell if it's distracting, or just varied enough to work.
VERSION 5: Second major update, this time just for production. I added a phaser automation to the lead, added percussive buildups for transitions, added a compressor to the kick and EQed out the drums a little more. I changed the harpsichord to a piano in the Beanbean Castle interlude, got rid of backing chords in the vibraphone bridge and lightened the drums to better fit the mood. I changed the bass in all of the interludes to that of "Happy Adventure Delightful Adventure," from Super Mario RPG, added back a smidgen of reverb to the strings etc., and lowered the volume a lot to make them sound more in-place. I also added some root reversions in the piano chords to make them a bit more interesting.
VERSION 5.5: Brightened the piano more, screwed with EQ a bit more. Changed the lead to what I think is much better. Changed the strings in the Chucklehuck Woods section to clarinets. That's about it, but this version sounds very different from the previous.
VERSION 6: Added a bridge and a finale. I'm loving the finale, but the ending could use some work. The bridge, on the other hand, I'm not so fond of. My aim was to make something decent so I could work on the finale without the piece as a whole having a big weird gap. It needs a lot of work, but I'm open to ideas as to what I should do. Regardless, I'd like any sort of suggestion, still. The finale might seem just a tad busy, and I think transitions could use some small adjustments, but I'm still not sure how exactly to go about it. So please do give all sorts of constructive criticism.
Sources:
Original Song:
Other sources (In order of inclusion):
Happy Adventure Delightful Adventure:
Hoohoo Village / Beanbean Castle Town:
Beanbean Castle:
Chucklehuck Woods:
Battle Victory:
Various voice clips and sound effects from Superstar Saga
Remix (v1): www.box.com/s/fbs5jxxc4intu9eyh2l5
Remix (v2): www.box.com/s/coqtaj3c23jl4qejfvci
Remix (v2.5 with varied piano timing): www.box.com/s/rev2v26guqkds99l9go1
Remix (v2.5 without varied piano timing): www.box.com/s/p3c9alocs3sf7120bp9d
Remix (v3) (varied piano timing used from now on): www.box.com/s/eg8nrk7s4gi86a5t5vaq
Remix (v3.5): www.box.com/s/rajtviu6vg2bynbr9nj9
Remix (v4): www.box.com/s/7fubjsqfv9tr6h9oniai
Remix (v4.5): www.box.com/s/q965sz624mu9uk2f02ms
Remix (v5): www.box.com/s/93vubh0tnzhxyaytn0pd
Remix (v5.5): www.box.com/s/8x8lphzgh58064uvk68s
Remix (v6): www.box.com/s/8tv8p8lf44nrm80cnu0k
The post on the OCR forums can be found here.
VERSION 2: So I've made a second version with a much more interesting introduction, and some overall improvements. But I still feel like some places are a bit busy. I varied up the chord velocity a bit, though perhaps not enough. Just some overall improvements, but no major changes besides the intro. Minor changes include less bass panning, trombones for the chords, Low Shelf Filter and High Shelf Filter for the cellos/trombones and piano, respectively, and extra percussion.
VERSION 2.5: Some more small EQing things, in addition to an extra snare, and one version with variations in the piano's timing, and one version without it, so the difference can be compared. Still, all suggestions and opinions are much sought-after and much appreciated.
VERSION 3: First major update. About an extra minute of music added, lots of effects and things. No major production changes, just composition. After the scream, I plan on changing the chord progression as we get into the bridge, and I might add some speckles of other songs here and there. But I'd especially like some opinions on the sound clips—I'm trying to decide if I should cut back on them or not.
VERSION 3.5: Changed piano chords to arpeggios in the vibraphone interlude, changed around the sound effect section. I'd really like some opinions on the two changes made in this version in comparison to v3.
VERSION 4: Added smattering of other M&L songs here and there, added a guitar to compliment the tubular bells in the first section of the song, and added some more small production changes, mostly with volume and echo and things.
VERSION 4.5: Took off chorus on guitar and changes some effects to make it less muddy. Removed the pitch bend, as well. Took off all cutoff and resonance from lead, but I'm planning on adding a resonance automator soon. Lightened reverb on orchestral tracks, brightened piano, trombones, cellos, and all the interludes that include other songs. My main concern with this here is that there isn't quite enough reverb in the interludes to make them blend well with the rest of the song, and possibly the same issue, albeit to a lesser extent, with the trombone and cello chords. Though with the trombone chords, I'm hearing an occasional note that's much stronger than the others. I can't tell if it's distracting, or just varied enough to work.
VERSION 5: Second major update, this time just for production. I added a phaser automation to the lead, added percussive buildups for transitions, added a compressor to the kick and EQed out the drums a little more. I changed the harpsichord to a piano in the Beanbean Castle interlude, got rid of backing chords in the vibraphone bridge and lightened the drums to better fit the mood. I changed the bass in all of the interludes to that of "Happy Adventure Delightful Adventure," from Super Mario RPG, added back a smidgen of reverb to the strings etc., and lowered the volume a lot to make them sound more in-place. I also added some root reversions in the piano chords to make them a bit more interesting.
VERSION 5.5: Brightened the piano more, screwed with EQ a bit more. Changed the lead to what I think is much better. Changed the strings in the Chucklehuck Woods section to clarinets. That's about it, but this version sounds very different from the previous.
VERSION 6: Added a bridge and a finale. I'm loving the finale, but the ending could use some work. The bridge, on the other hand, I'm not so fond of. My aim was to make something decent so I could work on the finale without the piece as a whole having a big weird gap. It needs a lot of work, but I'm open to ideas as to what I should do. Regardless, I'd like any sort of suggestion, still. The finale might seem just a tad busy, and I think transitions could use some small adjustments, but I'm still not sure how exactly to go about it. So please do give all sorts of constructive criticism.
Sources:
Original Song:
Other sources (In order of inclusion):
Happy Adventure Delightful Adventure:
Hoohoo Village / Beanbean Castle Town:
Beanbean Castle:
Chucklehuck Woods:
Battle Victory:
Various voice clips and sound effects from Superstar Saga
Remix (v1): www.box.com/s/fbs5jxxc4intu9eyh2l5
Remix (v2): www.box.com/s/coqtaj3c23jl4qejfvci
Remix (v2.5 with varied piano timing): www.box.com/s/rev2v26guqkds99l9go1
Remix (v2.5 without varied piano timing): www.box.com/s/p3c9alocs3sf7120bp9d
Remix (v3) (varied piano timing used from now on): www.box.com/s/eg8nrk7s4gi86a5t5vaq
Remix (v3.5): www.box.com/s/rajtviu6vg2bynbr9nj9
Remix (v4): www.box.com/s/7fubjsqfv9tr6h9oniai
Remix (v4.5): www.box.com/s/q965sz624mu9uk2f02ms
Remix (v5): www.box.com/s/93vubh0tnzhxyaytn0pd
Remix (v5.5): www.box.com/s/8x8lphzgh58064uvk68s
Remix (v6): www.box.com/s/8tv8p8lf44nrm80cnu0k
The post on the OCR forums can be found here.